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The Conversation Art Podcast

A podcast that goes behind the scenes and between the lines of the contemporary art worlds, through conversations with artists, dealers, curators, and collectors--based in Los Angeles, but reaching nationally and internationally.
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Now displaying: 2015
Dec 25, 2015
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Andrew Russeth of ArtNews talks about: the business model of art agent/dealer Stefan Simchowitz generally, and the lawsuit between Simchowitz and one of his charges - Ghanaian artist Ibrahim Mahama - in particular; another of Simchowitz's former charges, Oscar Murillo, and his relative value or lack thereof; the painter Joe Bradley (who along with Murillo appeared in MoMA's Forever Now), and how his work has managed to hold up; 100-year-old abstract painter Carmen Herrera, an artist who best represents why Russeth loves his job; up-and-coming artists whom Russeth is taking note of, including Annicka Yi, Jared Madere and Josh Kline; the greatness of artist David Hammons; the 'asshole artist' schtick of Richard Prince, and how as a critic, Russeth vacillates between covering the underdogs and otherwise under-exposed artists, and those in the biggest arenas whom he feels warrant coverage, sometimes in order to counterbalance their badness; and his love of sweets, his Instagram -ing of them, and the similarity between enjoying art and sweets. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Please subscribe to The Conversation on iTunes, and leave a positive review: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Dec 19, 2015
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Brooklyn-based artist Ted Mineo talks about: his experience being courted by and then showing with Jeffrey Deitch for the last two years before Deitch Projects closed its doors; The Debutante’s Ball, the article in the New York Times that rather sensationally portrayed his forming artist persona and emergence into the New York art world; the day jobs he began working after leaving the gallery, including toy making and artist assisting; his experience as a young art teacher, sometimes younger than his students, and what type of personality and teaching styles he discovered worked best. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Please subscribe to The Conversation on iTunes, and leave a positive review: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Dec 4, 2015
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New York-based art collector Steve Shane, just before as well as during Miami art fair season 2015, talks about: working at Anina Nosei's gallery while Jean-Michel Basquiat was making work down in the basement; how and when he started collecting (in college);the salons and private-invite tours he hosts to share his collection, and his visiting collector stints at various art schools (UNLV, Cranbrook, Pratt); how he navigates Miami, and what he loves and doesn't love about it and other art fairs; why he didn't make art his career (he's an anesthesiologist) despite his passion for art; and his enamor of Broadway and entertainment celebrities, including Cheyenne Jackson. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Please subscribe to The Conversation on iTunes, and leave a positive review: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Nov 28, 2015

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Jeff Weiss, artist and long-time teacher at numerous art schools (now retired), talks about: Weisslink, the email he sends out to his list of 1800 or so readers just past midnight every night-- which features a subtractive aggregate of the latest art world activity; his Prometheus Project, which was a multi-media memorialization of the oldest living thing, a bristle cone pine tree that was cut down in the Nevada mountains; and his life in rural Vermont, where he's had a house for 30 years and has learned where and how to draw the lines with his animal (mainly beaver) neighbors. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Please subscribe to The Conversation on iTunes, and leave a positive review: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.

Nov 14, 2015
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Artist Irena Jurek talks about: her blog featuring artist studio visits, her YouTube studio visit interviews, her curating, and how she was known for these other endeavors before she became known as an artist and ultimately all three (artist, curator, writer); the sexual nature of her art, to what degree it describes her life experiences, and how her work has be responded to with a surprisingly moralistic and Puritanical response in New York among a small but vocal part of the art community; the arc of her career and the seven years she's been in New York, to the point where she's now making a living from her work, and how that came to be. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Please subscribe to The Conversation on iTunes, and leave a positive review: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Oct 31, 2015
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Conceptual artist David Robbins talks about his life as an artist through New York (where he worked for Andy Warhol just out of college), Europe (especially Brussels) and now in Milwaukee; his writing on and making Concrete Comedy, as an alternative to mainstream comedy; his seminal work "Talent;" and working outside of the market system, and the freedom that comes with it. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Oct 17, 2015
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Artist Zak Smith talks about: Why there still isn't an art "podcast of record"(!); his time at Yale, and the particular dysfunctions of what's known as the Yale Pit and it's public flogging-style critiques; the reasons why he went to grad school, and how it's successfully impacted his career; his long-term relationship with his gallery Fredericks & Freiser; his decision to leave New York for L.A., from a community of artists and musicians to one of strippers and porn stars; and his work in porn, while debunking some myths that people have about the industry and the people in it. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Oct 3, 2015
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Roger White - artist, the co-creator and co-editor of the art journal Paper Monument, and author of the recent book, The Contemporaries: Travels in the 21st-Century Art World - discusses: the main characters in his book: Dana Schutz, Mary Walling Blackburn and Stephen Kaltenbach; entering and exiting the art world with varying degrees of notice; the pros and cons of working for other artists (with specific mention of assistants to Vanessa Beecroft and Jeff Koons); the challenges of creating alternate/regional art centers; the exhuming of vintage artist's careers, and how in the future that may no longer be possible; and Roger weighs in on painting, why he does it, and attempts to argue for the irrelevance of whether it's relevant. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Sep 19, 2015
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The Conversation Podcast's first live recording took place on September 9 at Ochi Projects gallery (and was generously hosted by Pauli Ochi). Along with me, the co-conversationalists included writer and independent curator Katie Bode, artist Stephanie Pryor and writer Matt Stromberg. In a nutshell the conversation covered the artist's relationship to the market, or vice versa, through the lenses of--New Museum artistic director Massimiliano Gioni's comment about art being more than 'visual entertainment;' the explosion of abstraction in the marketplace; the paradigm-shifted landscape via technology, in particular Instagram; the roles of collectors, and the new types of collectors, impacting the art world; The show Forever Now at MoMA; and how one's financial background affects, or doesn't, an artist's path as far as more traditional or more experimental. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Aug 28, 2015
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Julio Cesar Morales, artist and curator at the ASU Museum, talks about: Living in the sometimes conservative culture of Phoenix; his move from San Francisco - where he curated for Yerba Buena Center for the Arts and co-created the artist-run space Queen's Nails - to Arizona, and why he made it; the fire that occurred at Queen's Nails as a result of exhibiting a massive number of flaming matchsticks in the shape of the U.S., a piece by the art collective Claire Fontaine, and the ensuing fines he and his partner had to deal with; curating a George Kuchar film retrospective; and his Undocumented Interventions series, which led to discussion about immigration, border crossing and the future of the international drug trade. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Aug 15, 2015
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Tulsa Kinney, along with co-host Deb Klowden Mann, talks about coming to Los Angeles from southern Missouri, her art career, which was eclipsed by her writing and then her launch of Artillery, Los Angeles' first glossy contemporary art magazine, in 2006. We talk about the struggles of running and surviving as an art mag, working with writers who are afraid to write critical reviews, the onerous aspects of the art world as Tulsa sees them, and the changing and expanding L.A. art world and how that might be affecting the magazine's future. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Jul 25, 2015
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Carolina Miranda covers art both high and low, as well as writing the occasional piece about architecture or music. We talk about: her Latina heritage; her philosophy and approach as an arts journalist; the issues around race brought up in her piece on the Donelle Woodford/Joe Scanlon Whitney Biennial scandal; her posts that went viral, including breaking the story that Hello Kitty is not a cat; as well as stories on a velvet painting museum, and a pool in the middle of the desert. Carolina also makes her world debut reading of "Jeff Koons Cut-Up Poem," culled from the many flowery-worded articles about his retrospective. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Jul 9, 2015
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Conceptual, video and installation artist Marco Rios is also the curator of the Luckman Gallery at Cal State Los Angeles. He talks about the trials of being a curator; the wrath of curators who wanted his job; what he looks for in working with artists on a show; why his best exhibition experience was in an artist-run gallery (in Vienna); and what happened when he was so exhausted he needed to be carried off...twice. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Jun 20, 2015
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In an exceptionally wide-ranging conversation, we talk with Carrie about: her experience of displacement, both though being the daughter of a holocaust survivor (yet without having a Jewish name or looking Jewish), and the profound experience while visiting Vienna of feeling as though she could have been one of them; her work in astronautics as an artist; making art out of scents; and her experience making and trying to show an elevator that collapses on the viewer. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
May 30, 2015
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Christian Viveros-Faune, art writer for the Village Voice and ArtNet, returns to The Conversation to talk about: the triumph of the new Whitney Museum building; the Museum of Modern Art's struggles (including curator Klaus Biesenbach's star-fucking, and why the Forever Now show sucked); the situation with censored Cuban artist Tania Bruguera, and why no of consequence will defend her; and money and the art world, particularly in the form of collectors-built museums (the Rubells, the Mugrabis). The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
May 16, 2015
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For this episode, we reunite several members of the late Michael Asher's Post-Studio seminar class, as portrayed in the 2nd chapter of Seven Days in the Art World under the title, "The Crit," which took place in the fall of 2004. Fiona Jack, now back in New Zealand and one of the students presenting work that day, is the first part of the episode, followed by a group conversation with Josh Stone (another of the three students who presented), Julie Orser, Phil Chang, and, by phone from Brooklyn, Nate Harrison. The Conversation revolves around both the influence and legacy of Michael Asher through the class, and what it was like being involved in these marathon crit sessions, in which an individual crit could go for five hours, while a day with three students presenting typically went from morning until midnight and sometimes later. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
May 2, 2015
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Liat Yossifor along w/co-host Jen Collins talks about: her recent solo show in New York; her big Hollywood studio that sometimes is the only thing studio visitors want to talk about; her uneasy relationship aligning herself with fellow abstractionists; and two women artists she admires - Charlotte Posenenske and Lee Lozano - who left the art world altogether. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Apr 10, 2015
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Art world ethnographer, author, and art writer for The Economist Sarah Thornton talks about memorable moments from her research and reporting, involving some big art world names (as guided by the host). She addresses questions about transitioning from art world outsider to insider, how she came to choose the artists she chose, how she structured her books, and how the massively ambitious task of completing her most recent book -- 33 Artists in 3 Acts -- has left her exhausted and still regaining her feet. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Mar 6, 2015
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An especially fun conversation with the Times' David Pagel, in which he talks with us about: the relative influence of the L.A. Times stamp of approval as an art review; the correspondences and relations with those he's reviewed; the value and relevance of really going after an artist critically in a review, as opposed to positive reviews; the trouble with the appropriation and use of the words "curating," "practice" and "criticality;" any conflicts of interest he may face as a critic; and his experiences as a teacher at Claremont, and the inhabiting the various roles of art critic, professor, and curator. he Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Feb 14, 2015
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Kelsey Lee Offield, who runs the two-year-old Gusford gallery, talks about: her passion for sports; growing up on Catalina Island as a child; her path away from sports medicine and toward art, first in galleries, then as a collector, an artist, and finally a dealer; being part of the Wrigley family; the state of being a young dealer who also collects, specifically a young woman dealer. he Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Jan 30, 2015
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Along with new co-host JEN COLLINS (see Conversation 3-Way Episode 3: http://www.theconversationpod.com/conversation-3-way-episode-3/), we talk with JOSHUA DILDINE, who makes paintings on photographs. We discuss: his large family and growing up in Fresno, CA (the armpit of California); his starting a family at a young age, and negotiating his young son's time in his studio, and limiting his son's time painting on his dad's paintings); his relationship with his students at Pepperdine; and his younger life driving a raised truck. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.
Jan 17, 2015

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The Conversation's 100th Episode (!), with Los Angeles abstract painter Lester Monzon. With co-host Deb Klowden Mann, we talk about: Lester's intense childhood in Queens, and his being picked on as a chubby pubescent; his beginnings as an artist, including his uneasy relationship with art institutions; his challenging work in customer service; the ontology of being an abstract painter; the battlefield between abstractionists and its skeptics; and a great Don't Call Us story that Lester experienced at the opening of his first gallery group show. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.

Jan 3, 2015

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Art advisor Lisa Schiff discusses the art market, working with collectors (and building their collections), doing the Miami fairs, and what it is that a (high-end) art advisor does. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.

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