Tom Muller talks about: having a studio visit in which a dealer told him he wasn't properly branded for his type of work; growing up in South Africa, Switzerland, and Seattle; managing time as an artist with a kid; and showing outside of L.A., including Denver and D.C. Deb Klowden Mann co-hosts with Michael Shaw. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.